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mightymanx 01-04-2010 01:21 PM

what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Like the title said I have not found any store that carries them any more they have dissapeared.

Is this a local thing or is it some law I missed?

Thanks in advance.

phideaux 01-04-2010 01:25 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mightymanx (Post 2107918)
Like the title said I have not found any store that carries them any more they have dissapeared.

Is this a local thing or is it some law I missed?

Thanks in advance.

Last time I checked, my local dollar store had them. 2 boxes for a buck.

Light 01-04-2010 01:26 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Try a grocery store.

gbgunner 01-04-2010 01:30 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
My grocery store has had plenty of big boxes.

mightymanx 01-04-2010 01:30 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I have tried every kind of store possible all I can find is strike on box wooden matches made by Diamond. No Ohio blue tip or Diamond strike anywheres.

No hardware stores, dollar stores, grocery stores, or camping and hunting stores have them.

Light 01-04-2010 01:43 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Isn't "strike anywhere" an exaggeration?

Saul Mine 01-04-2010 01:45 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Would you believe "strike ALMOST anywhere"?

phideaux 01-04-2010 01:55 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
As an alternative, go back to the dollar store, They have packs of 5 or 6 disposable lighters for a buck. Take a pair of pliers to the childproof mechanism, and rip it out. They will light first-time, every time. :wink:

mightymanx 01-04-2010 02:01 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 2107973)
As an alternative, go back to the dollar store, They have packs of 5 or 6 disposable lighters for a buck. Take a pair of pliers to the childproof mechanism, and rip it out. They will light first-time, every time. :wink:

I have plenty of lighters and "strike on box" matches but I was trying to expand my fire starting selection. I have about 6 backpacking match holders to fill. That is what started this "quest"

Saul Mine 01-04-2010 02:55 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 2107973)
As an alternative, go back to the dollar store, They have packs of 5 or 6 disposable lighters for a buck. Take a pair of pliers to the childproof mechanism, and rip it out. They will light first-time, every time. :wink:

Spend your buck on a Bic. Anything else is not worth carrying out of the store. For instance if you put those cheap lighters in a warm place they will have no fuel in a short time. One Bic will outlast about five cheap imitations.

phideaux 01-04-2010 03:04 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 2108097)
Spend your buck on a Bic. Anything else is not worth carrying out of the store. For instance if you put those cheap lighters in a warm place they will have no fuel in a short time. One Bic will outlast about five cheap imitations.


Bics are good, so good that I do not consider them to be disposable. :wink:

ruprick 01-04-2010 03:11 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Match heads in a steel capped pipe has more energy per pound than TNT.

Ag_man 01-04-2010 03:26 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
The "strike anywhere" matches have been phased out due to the white phosphorus content. The P was being used to make meth.

mightymanx 01-04-2010 03:41 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 2108156)
The "strike anywhere" matches have been phased out due to the white phosphorus content. The P was being used to make meth.

Ahha!!!! This makes sense beings how I live in the meth capitol of the USA. I understand now why I can't get them along with sudafed and getting carded for propane.

Ishkabibble 01-04-2010 04:26 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
If you already have a good supply of matches and bics, try looking for a strike anywhere fresnel lens. They're multi-purpose and a great way to keep from burning through the matches you do have. They're bigger, but you won't have to worry about fuel capacity or your quantity running out.

Dude 01-04-2010 04:29 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Try amazon and ebay.

Fin-Angler 01-04-2010 04:34 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
The "Ohio Blue Tip" matches are great.
Alot of local grocery stores in New England carry them.
I used to dip the tips in hot wax to waterproof them.

MNeagle 01-04-2010 05:20 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I had trouble finding strike matches a few years ago when I started prepping. Haven't looked lately, but I imagine it's worse to find them now.

Was thinking of these the other day, that I wanted to teach the kids how to light matches; and I'd like to start with the safety matches. Then progress to regular matches & if their fingers are stong enough, a lighter.

But it sounds like I need to scrounge for safety matches first!

P.S. I can't imagine E-bay or other retailers sending matches through the mail... if that's the only source available.

Dude 01-04-2010 05:55 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Ebay and Amazon both have them - and at quantity prices you guys would probably want to take advantage of.

supn9 01-04-2010 06:45 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude (Post 2108412)
Ebay and Amazon both have them - and at quantity prices you guys would probably want to take advantage of.

good tip. i need one of those starter kits for camping or something. maybe a stone strike kit as.

phideaux 01-04-2010 07:03 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mightymanx (Post 2108185)
Ahha!!!! This makes sense beings how I live in the meth capitol of the USA. I understand now why I can't get them along with sudafed and getting carded for propane.


Sudafed, propane, matches, just add some duct tape, and it's the core of a McGyver episode...

Saul Mine 01-04-2010 07:06 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishkabibble (Post 2108258)
If you already have a good supply of matches and bics, try looking for a strike anywhere fresnel lens. They're multi-purpose and a great way to keep from burning through the matches you do have. They're bigger, but you won't have to worry about fuel capacity or your quantity running out.

Except that it only works when the sun is out and you don't need a fire very bad.

Then you have the battery and steel wool. That works, but batteries die and steel rusts.

Then you have the diesel lighter. That's good, but it will cost you about fifty bux to get one.

Your primary fire starter is a Bic lighter. Nothing else matches it for reliability and longevity. you might prefer another type for daily use, but when you have an emergency you need a Bic. Anything else is strictly a backup. The best backup is good old flint and steel, although we use ferrocerium now instead of flint. I hope you know you can snap the top off a Bic and use that flint to start a fire.

For tinder, work petroleum jelly into a 100% pure cotton ball and scrape out as much as you can. You can stack a dozen or so of these in a very small container such as a 35 mm film can or those tiny cans that Altoids come in. Fluff it up before you light it. Forget the wax preparations, except magic birthday candles. They will stay lighted in wind. A magnesium bar is good but not necessary. If you get one, cut it into small pieces. A fourth of a bar is enough for about a hundred fires.

SA matches are ok but bulky. Dip the heads in lacquer to waterproof them. Nail polish is ok but be sure it's lacquer, not enamel. You won't like what happens when you use enamel, and wax is almost as bad. Use lacquer. A nice lacquer can be made by dissolving a pingpong ball in two ounces of acetone. Be sure it's a real cellulose ball, not a plastic simulation.

Cut a bicycle inner tube into rings to hold your pack together. The rubber will burn when wet, even floating in water.

CyberGold 01-04-2010 07:07 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I saw em in Big 5 today - $1.50 a box

dang - getting old is a b*t*h... it was the local army surplus store-not big 5. No wonder I find myself wandering around town from store to store.

FeS2 01-04-2010 07:43 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 2108112)
Bics are good, so good that I do not consider them to be disposable. :wink:

A bic was the only thing I used to open beer as a teenager.

Ishkabibble 01-04-2010 08:17 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I think the key is to rely on multiple sources of fire. As Saul pointed out, nothing is infallable. But having multiple means to ignition is best. I have used a fresnel to start a fire about 30 minutes before sundown in the winter. Mine is about 21" across by 16" and cost $9 at our local dollarama... they sold it as a computer screen magnifier. On any day with even limited sun, I'd pick it hands down as the easiest way to light fire. Ignition on a summer day is instant, while on a winter day it's 2-3 seconds.

My kit also contains six Bics wrapped in plastic and then encased in wax, a pack of 250 waterproof matches, a titanium firestick, and a large flint. The total weight is between 8 and 9 ounces. All of these options are for backup, as the Fresnel is the only one that I'm not using up when I use it... and it is most certainly my most powerful.

I should add... anyone considering a fresnel needs to select a spot fresnel. A linear will not perform nearly as well.

latitude22 01-04-2010 08:29 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I use a coconut husk and a piece of bamboo.


seriously though i use the windproof lighters you get at marine stores. they work for everything, even shrinking shrink tubing, in fact they work better then the super dooper shrink tubing melter i bought. I haven't seen the strike anywhere's for a while now that you mention it, they are probably dangerous or something now.

<SLV> 01-04-2010 09:00 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
You just need a Blastmatch!


gasilat 01-04-2010 11:10 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Strike anywhere matches are available at our local trustworthy hardware store and fred meyers...

When i head out on the trail i usually take an assortment of regular book matches, stormproof matches http://www.rei.com/product/617046 and a bic lighter...paper firestarter and esbit tablets (12 minute burn) http://www.rei.com/product/653344 for starting damp firewood...

i've been using these solid fuel tablets for many years and i love em...no other product on the market comes close...

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showp...07&postcount=9

TechGuy 01-04-2010 11:24 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_...0%281%20Box%29

Publico, Pro Se 01-04-2010 11:31 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mightymanx (Post 2107918)
Like the title said I have not found any store that carries them any more they have dissapeared.

Is this a local thing or is it some law I missed?

Thanks in advance.

Note to self... If I ever need an arsonist DO NOT hire mightymanx.


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StackerKen 01-04-2010 11:43 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I just bought a couple boxes a few weeks ago.
And I thought I lived (near) the Meth capitol of the world.

mightymanx; Central Ca. ?

we have lots of bics
but
Gotta get me one of those fire starter flint thingies anyway

Blorp 01-05-2010 12:07 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
I'm in Texas, HEB is one of the big grocery stores here. They carry large boxes of strike anywhere matches. I use them all the time. Here they were near the BBQ briquettes and fluids, etc...

Publico, Pro Se 01-05-2010 12:42 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Try these:



http://www.thegreathardwarestore.com...676&click=2744


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=263602_263622


http://www.markdownshop.com/pd-22-ho...se-pack-12.cfm




http://bigboymusicinc.com/STRIKE-ANY...B000AV4N34.htm

Enjoy your shopping experience.

beercritic 01-05-2010 04:44 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishkabibble (Post 2108649)
I should add... anyone considering a fresnel needs to select a spot fresnel. A linear will not perform nearly as well.

How do you determine the type?

supn9 01-05-2010 05:04 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2108712)
You just need a Blastmatch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRKzdSXH34

Thats a good one. Ive seen it before. Works so well it seems.

gunDriller 01-05-2010 08:51 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 2108522)
Sudafed, propane, matches, just add some duct tape, and it's the core of a McGyver episode...

sounds more like MethGyver.

just out of curiosity - were there any McGyver episodes where he takes on a Meth Clan ?

Tn...Andy 01-05-2010 11:49 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Ace hardware is about the only place that carries them here.

MNeagle 01-05-2010 11:51 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 2109482)
Ace hardware is about the only place that carries them here.

Thanks for the tip, think I'll make a point of stocking up on them.

BTW, Bic lighters do NOT work if they're cold!

phideaux 01-05-2010 11:55 AM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MNeagle (Post 2109483)
Thanks for the tip, think I'll make a point of stocking up on them.

BTW, Bic lighters do NOT work if they're cold!

No, but just hold it in your hand for 30 seconds is all they need to warm up.

phideaux 01-05-2010 12:00 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gunDriller (Post 2109274)
sounds more like MethGyver.

just out of curiosity - were there any McGyver episodes where he takes on a Meth Clan ?

Dunno, never watched the show, I've only seen parodies of it. :111:

teedub31 01-05-2010 07:20 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 2108124)
Match heads in a steel capped pipe has more energy per pound than TNT.

Only a terrorist knows stuff like that.:s1:

CrufflerJJ 01-05-2010 09:32 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Here's a neat article about what ingredients are used in some strike anywhere matches:

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...st_whatsinside

TheNocturnalEgyptian 01-06-2010 07:29 PM

Re: what happened to strike anywhere matches?
 
Kids were slicing open tennis balls and filling them with match heads and supergluing them shut. When the ball is bounced or kicked, the match heads rub and the ball explodes.

It's basically a free source of high grade explosives. That may explain why they are being phased out.


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